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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: poll on the changing eras

it's an interesting debate/discussion, and why i especially enjoy and profit from the viewpoints of forumites such as Bryan, Will Tell, Earl, and Flashback, possibly others i am not recalling; as for my own take, apart from maybe one or two FM recorded tapes, i discovered the Grateful Dead on my own through their studio releases, and for the most part, pretty much focused on the early albums for my musical enjoyment; one exception to this is Dead Set, which i found utterly fascinating, i couldn't get enough of it and played that vinyl again and again and again; my live experience of the GD spanned '85 to '92, and whatever the reason, after my last two shows in Charlotte, i just didn't have it in me anymore to divest myself of time and energy to follow the band or its music; discovering the LMA opened up an entirely new vista for me of the GD's music; for the first time i was able to explore eras that i had only had a partial glimpse of, and needless to say, the education and experience has been, and continues to be, profound; and so for the last near two years, almost unconsciously, i have been coming to some conclusions; i mean, you listen to the same band, through the course of thirty years of live music, you are bound to form opinions; and what i have discovered is that i find the music of '68 to early '70 some of the most enjoyable sounds by the GD, and yet, it doesn't fulfil all my listening needs ... it's exploratory, it's often primitive, it's what i will reach for when all the lights are out and i'm wanting to escape into some universe i never experienced first hand, but those years lack a certain something i cannot define; brilliant, genius, acid-laced, mad, insane ... yes, but not fully evolved i will agree; and so, what the past two years has proven to me is that 1981 is the center for me, it is where i will return to again and again after i have taken a detour to other eras; 1981 is the meat, the vegetables, the bread, and the dessert; i barely listen to anything post '83, apart from a show here and there, such as 4/1/91; sorry, i know i didn't really answer your question, but thought i'd throw in my two rupees anyway; nazdravi

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 6:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: poll on the changing eras

In 1981 I was still a youngster, that year was probably the year I went to the most live gigs (in one year) I ever did.

There was so much going on musically, I rarely had time then to see the GD altho I did see Jerry Garcia Band once that year.

(So I'm unfamiliar with why '81 would be a key year for GD shows).

But man, there was New Order, The Ramones, The Banshees, Roxy Music, Kate Bush, The Jam, The Buzzcocks, Flamin' Groovies... and the neo-Mod bands were just beginning to evolve into the neo-garage psych bands that stormed the underground scene circa '84-'87...

the post-punk bands '81 era were even more interesting than the raw '77 Punk bands...
REM was just starting up... the college radio stations were the thing to listen to... so much I'm not even listing was happening in '81 ('79-'83) that the GD then, to me who had started his musical adventure with them (and Miles Davis in 1970,
at live shows... were irrelevant.

oops, no offense. just telling it from my perspective.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 25, 2007 9:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: poll on the changing eras

cream-puff, you are definitely speaking my language, no offense taken at all; the early to mid '80s, despite what some would say, were incredible in the evolution of reaching the masses with underground/independant artists/bands; you mention REM, but i would throw in Husker Du, the Smiths, Mission Of Burma, the Feelies, Bad Religion, and later in the '80s, the Charlatans UK, the Chameleons, Galaxie 500, Spacemen3 (admit it, best album title of all time: 'Taking Drugs To Make Music To Take Drugs To'), all of which took music and performance to heights never before imagined, at least from my perspective; and so, yes, while i was exploring the GD and it's music and 'scene', i by no means failed to discover what else was going on; and as for the '90s, well, that's an entirely different discussion!

sorry to impose, but could you possibly send me your e-mail?


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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 25, 2007 8:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: poll on the changing eras

email sent.

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